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	<title>Comments on: Swiss-US tensions: welcome to banking hell</title>
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		<title>By: GenevaLunch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; US citizens in Switzerland reconsider saving money under the mattress</title>
		<link>http://genevalunch.com/blog/2009/07/24/swiss-us-tensions-welcome-to-banking-hell/#comment-48282</link>
		<dc:creator>GenevaLunch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; US citizens in Switzerland reconsider saving money under the mattress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Swiss-US tensions: welcome to banking hell, GenevaLunch, 25 July 2009    Posted by&#160;::&#160;Ellen Wallace&#160;on&#160;13 November [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Swiss-US tensions: welcome to banking hell, GenevaLunch, 25 July 2009    Posted by&nbsp;::&nbsp;Ellen Wallace&nbsp;on&nbsp;13 November [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GenevaLunch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Geneva meeting on US tax issues to address dilemmas for US citizens abroad</title>
		<link>http://genevalunch.com/blog/2009/07/24/swiss-us-tensions-welcome-to-banking-hell/#comment-39085</link>
		<dc:creator>GenevaLunch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Geneva meeting on US tax issues to address dilemmas for US citizens abroad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Those who live and bank in Switzerland have been increasingly vocal in recent weeks in their complaints about problems with the US tax system and the IRS tax [...]</description>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://genevalunch.com/blog/2009/07/24/swiss-us-tensions-welcome-to-banking-hell/#comment-35463</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The us is filled with crooks in govt that want to continue taking everyones money while stealing for themselves without limits</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The us is filled with crooks in govt that want to continue taking everyones money while stealing for themselves without limits</p>
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		<title>By: tim vanovickoyo</title>
		<link>http://genevalunch.com/blog/2009/07/24/swiss-us-tensions-welcome-to-banking-hell/#comment-35214</link>
		<dc:creator>tim vanovickoyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>soon the EU (high tax) countries will &quot;catch&quot; one of the &quot;investment bankers&quot; that went to Europe and solicited wealthy clients to put their money in our &quot;secret&quot; accounts. Those &quot;investment bankers&quot; convinced the wealthy clients to bring their money to the US because non resident aliens pay no taxes on gains in the US. Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, etc are violators of this deceit. Lehman Bros was allowed to fail to cover up this solicitation fact. These Investment houses knew what UBS was doing. In fact, UBS was &quot;copying&quot; what our Investment Banks were doing. (Soliciting wealthy client for our banks). The EU countries don&#039;t have the surveillance that we do. That is why UBS got caught before Lehman Bros IE&#039;s got caught.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>soon the EU (high tax) countries will &#8220;catch&#8221; one of the &#8220;investment bankers&#8221; that went to Europe and solicited wealthy clients to put their money in our &#8220;secret&#8221; accounts. Those &#8220;investment bankers&#8221; convinced the wealthy clients to bring their money to the US because non resident aliens pay no taxes on gains in the US. Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, etc are violators of this deceit. Lehman Bros was allowed to fail to cover up this solicitation fact. These Investment houses knew what UBS was doing. In fact, UBS was &#8220;copying&#8221; what our Investment Banks were doing. (Soliciting wealthy client for our banks). The EU countries don&#8217;t have the surveillance that we do. That is why UBS got caught before Lehman Bros IE&#8217;s got caught.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen Wallace</title>
		<link>http://genevalunch.com/blog/2009/07/24/swiss-us-tensions-welcome-to-banking-hell/#comment-35198</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 09:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;ll find, if you look at our other frequent reporting on Swiss banks, that we have indeed covered criminal activity of some Swiss bankers in the US, and we will continue to do so. That&#039;s another story and one we believe it&#039;s important to watch.

There is another myth we want to ensure is not perpetrated: that Swiss banking and US clients = criminal activity, people hiding assets and worse. The longer those ideas linger, the longer the current situation will continue to create a burden for many individuals. I can only suggest that the people we&#039;ve talked to and been referred to aren&#039;t part of the group you&#039;ve seen.

There are far too many clear cases of US citizens who have indeed had problems with banking here - we&#039;ve talked to them but also to the banks, and there is plenty of evidence that it often complicates people&#039;s lives, creating a real burden. This is not a myth. True, there are plenty of Americans who manage to live in Switzerland and maintain Swiss bank accounts, but they often cannot also maintain a bank account in the US, which creates another set of problems for many students, for example, young workers and families. We think this is a story that has not yet received enough attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;ll find, if you look at our other frequent reporting on Swiss banks, that we have indeed covered criminal activity of some Swiss bankers in the US, and we will continue to do so. That&#8217;s another story and one we believe it&#8217;s important to watch.</p>
<p>There is another myth we want to ensure is not perpetrated: that Swiss banking and US clients = criminal activity, people hiding assets and worse. The longer those ideas linger, the longer the current situation will continue to create a burden for many individuals. I can only suggest that the people we&#8217;ve talked to and been referred to aren&#8217;t part of the group you&#8217;ve seen.</p>
<p>There are far too many clear cases of US citizens who have indeed had problems with banking here &#8211; we&#8217;ve talked to them but also to the banks, and there is plenty of evidence that it often complicates people&#8217;s lives, creating a real burden. This is not a myth. True, there are plenty of Americans who manage to live in Switzerland and maintain Swiss bank accounts, but they often cannot also maintain a bank account in the US, which creates another set of problems for many students, for example, young workers and families. We think this is a story that has not yet received enough attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Beekman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Beekman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry to say that you are perpetrating a myth.

A US citizen or tax person who intends to use an account as a clearing account and who lives in Switzerland does not have a problem in doing so.

That Americans and US tax persons choose not to file is their issue.  For them to claim lack of knowledge is outright naive, if not a lie.  I have made them aware of their problems since 1982 when entering Switzerland as an American.

Please make the record straight and don&#039;t rely on the anguished Americans who have been living at their own risk and peril.

On the other hand, you may well investigate the criminal activities of some Swiss bankers, who blatantly ignored Swiss law and who acted criminally on US territory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry to say that you are perpetrating a myth.</p>
<p>A US citizen or tax person who intends to use an account as a clearing account and who lives in Switzerland does not have a problem in doing so.</p>
<p>That Americans and US tax persons choose not to file is their issue.  For them to claim lack of knowledge is outright naive, if not a lie.  I have made them aware of their problems since 1982 when entering Switzerland as an American.</p>
<p>Please make the record straight and don&#8217;t rely on the anguished Americans who have been living at their own risk and peril.</p>
<p>On the other hand, you may well investigate the criminal activities of some Swiss bankers, who blatantly ignored Swiss law and who acted criminally on US territory.</p>
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		<title>By: Swiss bank accounts for americans - English Forum Switzerland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swiss bank accounts for americans - English Forum Switzerland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 07:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Re: Swiss bank accounts for americans   More news about banking for Americans here. [...]</description>
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